- Bruce Waltke’s Letter to RTS/Orlando Constituency
- Why Bruce Waltke’s Resignation Signals the End of Creationism
- PCA Position Paper Urges Unity in Diversity on Creation Issue
- How To Trust the Bible if Evolution Is True
- Waltke’s Survey on Hindrances to Creation by Evolution
- Copernicus’ Heliocentricty a Dangerous Threat to Inerrancy
- Here’s the ABC News Video on Bruce Waltke
I’ve recently discovered this blog post from an ancient Church blog. I present it to you with my tongue planted firmly in my cheek!
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A wolf in sheep’s clothing, that “noted scientist,” Copernicus, has recently defended the belief that the sun is the center of the universe. Worse yet, he claims that so-called “scientific” discoveries have led him to believe that the Earth actually moves around the sun.
Yet he has made a very fatal mistake. He has begun with the follies of science and not with the inerrant Word of God. He is insisting that we submit Scripture to science when it should be the other way around.
Scripture clearly states:
- “The world is firmly established; it cannot be shaken.” (1 Chron. 16:30)
- “[The LORD] established the earth on its foundations; it will never be shaken. (Ps. 104:5)
- “The sun rises and the sun sets; panting, it returns to its place where it rises.” (Eccl. 1:5)
Thankfully, that great theologian, Martin Luther, has rebuked this ridiculous sun-centered idea soundly:
There is talk of a new astrologer who wants to prove that the earth moves and goes around instead of the sky, the sun, the moon, just as if somebody were moving in a carriage or ship might hold that he was sitting still and at rest while the earth and the trees walked and moved. But that is how things are nowadays: when a man wishes to be clever he must needs invent something special, and the way he does it must needs be the best! The fool wants to turn the whole art of astronomy upside-down. However, as Holy Scripture tells us, so did Joshua bid the sun to stand still and not the earth.
Even John Calvin has refuted this dangerous heresy:
Those who assert that ‘the earth moves and turns’…[are] motivated by ‘a spirit of bitterness, contradiction, and faultfinding;’ possessed by the devil, they aimed ‘to pervert the order of nature.
Copernicus and his ilk, while claiming to be Christian, have failed to present their findings as a result of biblical reflection. They see a need to “reconcile” science and the Bible, but so far, it seems that only the Bible is getting changed in this reconciliation.
It should be clear that no consensus of human scientists can be presumed to have a greater knowledge than the omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent Creator. Yet, these men who wish to be both Christian and Scientist have placed themselves above the great Creator of the great Earth.
Finally, what do these men think they are doing? If we allow science to twist Scripture in this area, what will science make of the virgin birth, the miracles of Jesus, and the resurrection?
When will Copernican “scientists” take their rightful place under the authority and inerrancy of Scripture?









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A very good post! As they say, those who don’t study history are bound to repeat it. I for one do not think science and Scripture are at odds with each other. Interpretation may, however, be at odds with current theories of science. When I was first studying Physics, the Bohr model of the atom was the generally accepted theory. Now we have wave mechanics. Theories of science will continue to change, but the Word of our God lasts forever.
“Interpretation may…be at odds with current theories of science.” Bingo! It’s just as ridiculous to claim that Bruce Waltke is a Bible-denying heretic (thank you, Ken Ham!) as it would be to say that Copernicus or Galileo were because they believed in an earth that revolves around the sun. Waltke is certainly not asking anyone to abandon Scripture; rather he is asking us to check our interpretations of Scripture. Maybe that’s where the problem lies.
While I appreciate the tongue in cheek nature of this post, I’m sure that you are aware that the debate over heliocentrism was a much more complex affair than is often presented in public, and effort should be made to clear the numerous myths and misrepresentations that are often presented as historical fact. In particular, we need to stop perpetuating the widespread myth that the debate over heliocentrism was primarily a conflict between science and Scripture, and that the chief opponents to Copernicus’ theory were theologians who rejected heliocentrism because it contradicted Scripture. Unfortunately, it seems that the main people who are fighting this misrepresentation are the historians of science who have actually studied the circumstances in depth–but who listens to historians?
For example, this excerpt from “Beyond War and Peace:
A Reappraisal of the Encounter between Christianity and Science”, by respected historians of science David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers addresses the quotes from Luther and Calvin that are cited in this post:
May I also refer you to this blog post that describes how the primary opponents of Galileo were the other Aristotelean scientists of the time, and not primary the Church, due to the fact that Galileo actually did not have convincing scientific evidence for heliocentrism.
This recent paper also addresses the issue of how the scientific evidence during Galileo’s time actually supported geocentrism (in the form of the Tychonian model) rather than heliocentrism.
Thank you for your ver thorough comment. I think you may have missed the point of this post, though. I’m not at all trying to argue that the primary opponent to heliocentrism was the Church. I’m simply trying to point out the similarities between the response of some Christians over that issue with the response some Christians are having over the Bruce Waltke/evolution issue.
Thank you, though, for all the helpful information.
Point taken. There are indeed unfortunate extreme responses in both of these situations. I wish that more credit is given by the press to the large part of the Christian community (this blog being a good example) that is striving for a healthy middle ground in the science and faith discussion, but unfortunately it is the extreme positions that garner the majority of the attention.
Thank you for your other posts in this series. I too appreciate the concluding statement in the PCA position paper on creation views.
I would have to agree with you, Will. I for one usually think I have something figured out until new facts are presented. I am not saying who’s right or wrong or even what the facts are. My point is that we will never have all the facts. If God wanted us to, He would have provided them. He is not threatened by our belief, nor does He feel a need to justify Himself to us. He is the Creator of all there is. All is done for His glory. The minute we put God completely in a box, thinking we have it figured out, we have replaced Him with an idol of our own making. When that happens, we really do become a strange sect indeed. Bruce is as orthodox and reformed as I think one can get. We should never get to the point where we can’t discuss something. Truth will always prevail. God and His Word are truth. We just don’t always understand.